Yes. The unregenerate masses (and the indications from Scripture are that only a small number will be saved..) will be in the lake of fire. (”hell” is really Sheol/Hades) What does that have to with you or anyone you know or will ever meet?

Mother Theresa is a classic case of belligerence to the Word of God in doing works to be seen before men and opposing in every way the Truth in favor of buying favor from men and women as exalting the intelligence of/flattering the fallen world: anti-Christ. Perhaps it is that she had a last minute salvation. We don’t know. But her fruit was nothing more than any other non-regenerate ‘humanitarian’ has done or is doing. It is being deaf to God and trying to manufacture one’s own salvation via works that please men.

Your post is the usual dodge on personal regeneration in supposed favor of /solidarity with those “poor souls” who supposedly ‘never had a chance’ (that faux pau of faux paus God supposedly commited to those deceived they have free will and that all wisodm is to be found in the fallen human heart) . In truth, those very persons mentioned in your post may or may not be regenerate. What is that to us?

The masses in places Islamic and Hindu, everywhere, have trodeen on the blood of Christian martyrs to belligerently “stay” Islamic, Hindu and animistic to this hour. It isn’t as if God never spoke His Word to them. God sent (and sends) His servants to them repeatedly and they kill them expressly for what He says through them.

What you are looking for is motivation to choose one particular over another as truth based on its supposed emotional opportunity / merits expressly for the fallen human heart and in solidarity with other hearts who would choose the same as if there was a choice at all. None can choose God as He really is. There is no choice. No sale. No attempt at PR. God expressly says that those who are not regenerate cannot know Him.

1Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him; and he cannot know them because they are spiritually discerned;

God created multiple hearts and gives them to whom He pleases. Each one is deceived the whole universe and total reality is contained within its own emotional common sense and that God is an emotional imbecile.

God giving a man’s heart to a beast:

Daniel 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.

God giving a beast’s heart to man:

Daniel 4:16 Let his heart be changed from man’s, and let a beast’s heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.

God giving a man another heart:

1 Samuel 10:8,9 And thou shalt go down before me to Gilgal; and, behold, I will come down unto thee, to offer burnt offerings, and to sacrifice sacrifices of peace offerings: seven days shalt thou tarry, till I come to thee, and shew thee what thou shalt do. And it was so, that when he had turned his back to go from Samuel, God gave him another heart: and all those signs came to pass that day.

In regeneration God giving us a new heart that is His Heart:

Eze 36:25-27 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

1 John 4:17,18 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as He is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

God is Love and Word and Spirit and yet will never make emotional common sense to men. Christ told his disciples He was going to be killed. Peter, in the emotional common sense of the world, said:

Matthew 16:22,23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Very plainly God said the emotional common sense of man did not grasp the works of God and that that emotional common sense was Satanic and of men.

Theo-emotional as doctrine is a lie and is of Satan.

There is genuine new creation in Jesus Christ. That some hear and some do not in no way means God will stop Speaking through us.

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Most of the ‘Calvinism’ that is being put froward theses days is essentially what has been called “four point” Calvinism and never was or will be non-metaphroical new creation in Jesus Christ. Don’t worry about being a “Calvinist”. Just be new creation in Jesus Christ and God will show you, as He will live in you, who is lying and who He is Speaking through.

I’ve heard of Rushdooney. Never read him. I’ll google him later.
Heard of Gary North on political things. Not sure where or who he is otherwise.

The one put forward as a supposed archtypical Calvinist these days is RC Sproul. But he is arminian/free will and doesn’t know it. There seems to be an entire sub-culture on the net who say they are Calvinist. But in the end, they are all ‘agree’ and ‘dis-agree’ among themselves, which means God isn’t Speaking through them. All I have seen of what they say is anti-Christ wrapped as “philsophical Calvinism.” What they have not understood is that merely “agreeing” or “dis-agreeing” is insisting on the supposed “right” to “use” a mind not-Christ to understand Christ in such a way as to bamboozle their fellow man into joining a ‘movement’, which is not non-metaphorical new birth/regeneration in Jesus Christ and is indeed of anti-Christ. It starts out in “love” and ends up in death. It is that exact doctrine of quasi-Calvinism that has lead the visible american Church into apostacy and soceity into adultery, sodomy and abortion.

Look at the older men held forth as “men of God”. Look at where the country was when they first started their “ministries”. look where the country is now. Look at the young men held forth as today’s old pastors of tommorow. They are even worse.

Anti-Christ can get up and repeat the exact word order of perfect ‘doctrine’, say he ‘agrees’ with every single point–and lead those around him into the lake of fire. God MUST be the Speaker as creating what He says as regenerating the unconditionally elect. Men cannot merely repeat God’s word order, say they ‘agree’ and enter into heaven.

The ‘just say yes’ mind of anti-Christ has poisoned the whole visible Church. Anti-Christ comes with the express purpose to deceive, finds out what you think is fundamental truth, says it as perfect pronunciation of exact word order that is truth “to you”, gets voted onto the commitees, etc.. and then throws down the Church from within, staying in power by the widget of a false “love doctrine”. “Agreeing” and “disagreeing” is simply not good enough.

The “calvinist” of this era have combined true word order doctrine (creeds, subscription to standards, that doesn’t regenerate any) with flattery so as to manufacture mega-congregations “of conservatives” as speaking it themselves, uses a false ‘humility’ lie to insist that God should never speak through them and then pretend confusion when called on it, immediately appealing to the false “love doctrine” to enforce “unity”.

God is not something to be good at. There is new birth in Jesus Christ as new creation or the lake of fire. You cannot force new birth. You can’t be a tyrant trying to ‘enforce’ new birth. But without new birth, it just so happens, there is no civilization as there is no peace. Faking it is tyranny and a lie and the people devour each other.

Isaiah 29:13,14 And the Lord saith, Forasmuch as this people draw near with their mouth, and honour me with their lips, but their heart is removed far from me, and their fear of me is a commandment taught of men; therefore, behold, I will proceed to do marvellously with this people, to do marvellously, even with wonder, and the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their intelligent ones shall be hid.

Isaiah 65:1 I am sought out of them that inquired not for me , I am found of them that sought me not; I have said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

At the end of the day, the unregenerate masses will be in hell.The consequences of Calvinism is that Mother Theresa, Manson, Hitler, millions of Babies will all be in hell. This is a theology that sees God as love?

Also, are Rushdooney and Gary North, with their reconstructionism and Kingdom theology representative of most Calvinist today?

It is a very plain belligerence against God to keep saying to Him “go away so I can keep thinking and speaking “about ” you”. You cannot be in Christ and be deceived you can reason ‘about’ Him. You cannot be in Christ and search for Him or search to know ‘about’ Him in a Word/Speech/thoughts not-God.

The mind that supposedly reasons must have non-creating / non-interfereing language in which to analyze. Everything has to stop/be static to see each ‘peice’ as if reality actually did that in order for that ‘reason’ to be truth. That language is the very definition of anti-Christ–the living creature that is the non-creating speech of sin. It is a great deception that God ‘uses language’ and that men ‘use language’ in common as if language itself were a non-living thing and a neutral medium in which men and God “understand each other”.

Anti-Christ doesn’t ‘use’ language, he is non-creating speech, the speech of the whole world. He is the mind of the fallen world, the very mind and speech that speaks “reason” (which is in truth only witchcraft as emotion.)

God as Creating Word/Jesus Christ and the non-creating speech of sin / anti-Christ cannot mix and do not mix in the new creation in Jesus Christ. God as Word completely messes up the thoughts of non-regnerate man. Non-regenerate man wishes for the privacy to have a peaceful mind experince ( a place to think things through) ( in non-creating speech specifically) and does not know that they are fallen in anti-Christ. When God speaks, He completely destroys that deception of privacy men are deceived actually exists –He destroys the lie of a privacy in which a free will could exist.

The non-elect non-regenerate can’t stand to hear God, He messes with the way they already think: anti-Christ. He is to them as He really is the enemy of “their own mind” / “reason” and seems to them that He would drive them insane / make what makes sense to them (as their supposed wealth of wisdom) not-make-sense.

He very plainly says that He will indeed make their wisdom not-wisdom:

Isaiah 29:13,14 And the Lord saith, Forasmuch as this people draw near with their mouth, and honour me with their lips, but their heart is removed far from me, and their fear of me is a commandment taught of men; therefore, behold, I will proceed to do marvellously with this people, to do marvellously, even with wonder, and the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their intelligent ones shall be hid.

Proverbs 21:15 It is joy to a righteous man to do what is right; but it is ruin for the workers of iniquity.

Act 7:55-60 But being full of the Holy Spirit, having fixed his eyes on heaven, he saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and said, Lo, I behold the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God. And they cried out with a loud voice, and held their ears, and rushed upon him with one accord; and having cast him out of the city, they stoned him . And the witnesses laid aside their clothes at the feet of a young man called Saul. And they stoned Stephen, praying, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And kneeling down, he cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And having said this, he fell asleep.

Beware of any who say they “used reason” to “agree with God” that what He said is truth and that He is God. That is exactly what is being said by anti-Christ in pop Christianity–that the ‘human mind’ must give God permission to be true and trustworthy and then via “reason” as the supposed “approving tool”. That is nothing more than anti-Christ trying to set himself up as judge over who is God as if there were any question.

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As for abortions and wealth, tacitly implying that cash is the real wealth and children are an impediment to that cash such that supposedly NO abortion equals less material “wealth” is wickedness, sin and idolatry right up there with the lie that telling every man the truth of God as God Speaks it through us is automatically offensive. Look at the population statistics for Europe and the need it has for immigration to fill jobs to keep that “wealth” going. They are disappearing. Literally. But according to the lie of anti-Christ in your post, that’s okay because they drive nicer cars and drink better wine and say many words to each other on how they are the ‘rich’. They are the depraved in great wickedness amongst themselves doing away with thier own existence and feeling it pleasurably.

And they as abortionsist/ warring against their own children for ephemeral emotional opportunity are the example you hold up to duplicate as “sophisticated” and “wise”?

As for two sides in a war both crying out to God, it is very plain that those who are deceived in the mind of anti-Christ are deceived they and they only worship the ‘real God’ and the other guy worships Satan.

But God is real, Jesus Christ is His Son, did die for our sins, did rise the third day, there is real new creation in Jesus Christ ( I am new creation in Jesus Christ and witness to that truth as He Speaks through me) and we do know God. That many lie repetitvely doesn’t make their mere repetition ’science’ and doesn’t make God less knowable Truth.

That two sides to any conflict say as anti-Christ/’reason’ “they used reason” to determine who the enemy is and why demonstrates both are deceived in anti-Christ as they have falsely perceived the other guy to the enemy rather than anti-Christ himself as their speech as well as being deceived that true justice is between man and man and not between man and God exclusively. In True justice, the reconcilation of man toward God that only God can accomplish as new creation/being in Jesus Christ is peace. In fake justice over which wars are fought, there is no peace; only a temporary emotional satisfaction that cannot last because anti-Christ can’t stop speaking through men at each other and deceiving them he doesn’t exist.

God is doing all things for His own purposes. Good and evil. War and peace. Life and death. God is well known to we who have been born again and does indeed do true justice through the United States of America. That God uses Satan to seem to pollute that very justice in the midst of its being done in no way does away with that justice.

Job 12:16 With Him is strength and effectual knowledge; the deceived and the deceiver are his.

Proverbs 16:4 Jehovah hath wrought everything on his own account, yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

As to politics, does God sides in our tribal(national) conflicts? I know Duet 25, but let me give an example. Only two countries in Europe have NO abortion, Spain and Ireland. he rest, or most of Europe allows abortion on demand. Guess what the poorest nations in europe are? I am also reminded of the civil war, both sides praying to the same God. Nations are tribes, is God confused, or are the people in the nations who think God is on their side?

Len in Yucaipa

But given the slant of your spirit to imply that masons are Satanic, what would be the point of your post exactly? That America isn’t a Christian nation because some of its leaders were deceived? That spirit in you should know that men are not in charge of nations, but God alone through Jesus Christ alone.

Ephesians 1:15-23 Wherefore I also, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which is in you, and the love which ye have towards all the saints, do not cease giving thanks for you, making mention of you at my prayers, that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, would give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the full knowledge of him, being enlightened in the eyes of your heart, so that ye should know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, and what the surpassing greatness of his power towards us who believe, according to the working of the might of his strength, in which he wrought in the Christ in raising him from among the dead, and he set him down at his right hand in the heavenlies, above every principality, and authority, and power, and dominion, and every name named, not only in this age, but also in that to come; and has put all things under his feet, and gave him to be head over all things to the assembly, which is his body, the fulness of him who fills all in all:

But of course The United States is a Christian country, founded on Jesus Christ in new creation in spite of its old and recent apostacy and the evil that is done in it. There is indeed forgiveness, redemption, peace, prosperity in new creation in Jesus Christ in spite of the hopes of Satan and deceiving non-creating speech of anti-Christ through false brethren and all worshippers of demons no matter where they be.

To wit:

Jdg 6:25-32 And it came to pass the same night, that Jehovah said to him, Take the young bullock, which thy father hath, even the second bullock of seven years old, and throw down the altar of Baal that thy father hath, and cut down the Asherah that is by it; and build an altar to Jehovah thy God upon the top of this strong place in the ordered manner, and take the second bullock, and offer up a burnt-offering with the wood of the Asherah that thou shalt cut down. And Gideon took ten men of his servants, and did as Jehovah had said to him. And it came to pass, because he feared his father’s house, and the men of the city, if he did it by day, that he did it by night. And when the men of the city arose early in the morning, behold, the altar of Baal was broken down, and the Asherah was cut down that was by it, and the second bullock was offered up upon the altar that was built. And they said one to another, Who has done this thing? And when they inquired and asked, they said, Gideon the son of Joash has done this thing. And the men of the city said to Joash, Bring out thy son, that he may die, because he has broken down the altar of Baal, and because he has cut down the Asherah that was by it. And Joash said to all that stood near him, Will *ye* contend for Baal? or will *ye* save him? he that contends for him, let him be put to death whilst it is yet morning. If he be a god, let him plead for himself, because they have broken down his altar. And on that day they called him Jerubbaal, saying, Let Baal plead with him, because he has broken down his altar.

God took Gideon from being an idol worshipper, which is the worship of demons (of Baal/Allah in particular) and caused Gideon, by Speaking His Creating Word/Christ to Gideon to destroy the high place of worship of demons among other things…

Then we see later that that very same Gideon was seduced by the demons and took the spoils of the victory at war that God had wrought through him to make an idol that became a snare to an entire nation –to worhip demons again. To wit:

Jdg 8:24-28 And Gideon said to them, I would desire a request of you: give me every man the earrings of his booty; for they had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites. And they said, We will willingly give them . And they spread a garment, and cast therein every man the earrings of his booty. And the weight of the golden earrings that he requested was a thousand seven hundred shekels of gold; besides the moons, and eardrops, and the purple garments that were on the kings of Midian, and besides the chains that were about their camels’ necks. And Gideon made an ephod of them, and put it in his city, in Ophrah. And all Israel went thither a whoring after it; and it became a snare to Gideon, and to his house. And Midian was subdued before the children of Israel, and they lifted up their heads no more. And the land had rest forty years in the days of Gideon.

Was God’s act and plan done away in Gideon’s disobediance? Was Israel done away? Of course not. It was and is part of God’s whole destiny for us all to go through good and evil. Is the United States done away because its founding documents are a mixing of iron and clay, the non-creating speech of sin and Creating Word of God? No. Neither is it cleared of all guilt. God will do what God will do. God forgive and bless the United States of America, England, Israel, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan bring the True peace of Jerusalem and come quickly. And wipe out Islam and all lies.

Daniel 2:41-45 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potter’s clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron and part of clay, the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men; but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron doth not mingle with clay. And in the days of these kings shall the God of the heavens set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the sovereignty thereof shall not be left to another people: it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, but itself shall stand for ever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold, –the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter. And the dream is certain, and the interpretation of it sure.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

20 GREATEST NAMES OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
• John Adams - Spoke favorably of Freemasonry — never joined
• Samuel Adams - (Close and principle associate of Hancock, Revere & other Masons
• Ethan Allen - Mason
• Edmund Burke - Mason
• John Claypoole - Mason
• William Daws - Mason
• Benjamin Franklin - Mason
• Nathan Hale - No evidence of Masonic connections
• John Hancock - Mason
• Benjamin Harrison - No evidence of Masonic connections
• Patrick Henry - No evidence of Masonic connections
• Thomas Jefferson - Deist with some evidence of Masonic connections
• John Paul Jones - Mason
• Francis Scott Key - No evidence of Masonic connections
• Robert Livingston - Mason
• James Madison - Some evidence of Masonic membership
• Thomas Paine - Humanist
• Paul Revere - Mason
• Colonel Benjamin Tupper - Mason
• George Washington - Mason
• Daniel Webster - Some evidence of Masonic connections
Summary: 10 Masons, 3 probable Masons, 1 Humanist, 2 Advocates of Freemasonry, 4 no record of connections.
SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
Known Masons (8): Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock, Joseph Hewes, William Hooper, Robert Treat Payne, Richard Stockton, George Walton, William Whipple
Evidence of Membership And/or Affiliations (7): Elbridge Berry, Lyman Hall, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Nelson Jr., John Penn, George Read, Roger Sherman
Summary: 15 of 56 Signers were Freemasons or probable Freemasons.
It’s true that this represents only 27% of the total signers. But this 27% included the principle movers of the Revolution, most notably Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, the primary authors of the Declaration. The former was a Freemason, the latter a deist and possible Freemason. If one were to analyze the Declaration, he would see the humanistic influences.
In any event, there is no evidence that even 27% of the signers were true Christians.