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	<title>Comments on: Anti-Christ changes his theology &#8230;again</title>
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		<title>by: presbyter</title>
		<link>http://christianclarityreview.wpblogs.com/2005/11/30/anti-christ-changes-his-theology-again/#comment-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>But therein is the whole of the problem, Steve:
 
re: &quot;There you have it: the Pope is abolishing a concept (aka in their mind: 'air')..&quot;

But there is no such thing as an 'idea' composed of nothing but the words that spoke them in that the words themselves are living spirits. So the lie all along of both purgatory and limbo (to include the &quot;limbo of the Fathers&quot; ) was a lie expressly becuase the spirit who spoke it was and is anti-Christ. Funny how anti-Christ as 'theory' accepts cash, land and Mastercard for indulgences, huh? 

No. The 'idea' didn't do it. Anti-Christ is doing it.

That lying spirit in your flesh (which is not you if you have indeed been born again in Jesus Christ by hearing the Word of God and not in any way by 'baptismal/'holy water' regeneration')  &lt;b&gt;saying that it was only a 'theory' is the pretense that the lie never happened  BECAUSE it was a lie. &lt;/b&gt; But it did and is. It is called the whole of Romanist doctrine and speech, to include purgatory.

What will anti-Christ change next?

And yet supposedly, you must wait on his mouth to be the certainty on which you depend to 'empower your free will the right way' to earn heaven. (!) If you 'don't', then your relatives must pay cash money and be enslaved to empty ceremony/emotional busywork  to get you out of 'purgatory' : generations after you are taken from flesh, your family will still be paying the Romanist for your supposed welfare if God is not merciful and delivers you and them from the lie of Romanism.

There is no free will. There is only the mercy and grace of God or the lake of fire.

Then there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.butlerd.net/westchristfaqhtml.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;em&gt;In contrast with Purgatory, Hell is the eternal punishment of the damned. In traditional Catholic thought, people die after commiting venial (minor) sins before being able to confess and do penance for those sins, go to Purgatory. People who die after committing mortal sins but before doing penance go to Hell. Limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), is the place where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment. Limbo of the Fathers is the place where those who were born before Christ came, but who were just (i.e. good people), wait for admission to heaven (they cannot enter heaven because they are not saved in Christ). Before Vatican II, the Church consistently taught that only Roman Catholics had a chance to be saved and attain Heaven. After Vatican II, the Church began to teach that the Holy Spirit was active in other Christian denominations and therefore other Christians could be saved as well (i.e. go to Heaven). In terms of other religious traditions, Vatican II made the following statement: 

The non-Christian may not be blamed for his
ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open
to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he
follows the commands of his conscience, for through
this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this
divine action is not confined within the limited
boundaries of the visible Church.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Not only does the &quot;Limob of the Fathers&quot; directly refute God as pre-Incarnate Christ Jesus as Ever-Exisiting Word of God; not only does Moses and Elijah appearing with Christ in the transfiguartion directly refute &quot;Limbo of the Fathers&quot; and &quot;purgatory&quot;, but now the anti-Christ says one can be a  Christian WITHOUT being a Christian. (!) That a pagan can 'earn heaven' by doing whatever his mind and heart tell him, but you must strictly adhere to a very rigid set of rules in order to 'earn' the same thing as a Romanist. 

One wonders why the Romanist don't flee en masse to the hills so as not to hear the more intricate rules they must 'do' in that the more obvious pagan has more freedom from those very rules and yet 'earns' the same reward: according to the compounded lies of 'free will' of anti-Christ through the Romanists.

Have faith in Jesus Christ/Creating Word of God , Himself as the irresistible grace of God, not in a system of non-creation of anti-Christ through men.

&lt;b&gt;Ephesians 4:17-24  This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye should no longer walk as the rest of the nations walk in the vanity of their mind,  being darkened in understanding, estranged from the life of God by reason of the ignorance which is in them, by reason of the hardness of their hearts,  who having cast off all feeling, have given themselves up to lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greedy unsatisfied lust.  But *ye* have not thus learnt the Christ, if ye have heard him and been instructed in him according as the truth is in Jesus;   namely your having put off according to the former conversation the old man which corrupts itself according to the deceitful lusts;  and being renewed in the spirit of your mind;  and your having put on the new man, which according to God is created in truthful righteousness and holiness. &lt;/b&gt;

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But therein is the whole of the problem, Steve:</p>
	<p>re: &#8220;There you have it: the Pope is abolishing a concept (aka in their mind: &#8216;air&#8217;)..&#8221;</p>
	<p>But there is no such thing as an &#8216;idea&#8217; composed of nothing but the words that spoke them in that the words themselves are living spirits. So the lie all along of both purgatory and limbo (to include the &#8220;limbo of the Fathers&#8221; ) was a lie expressly becuase the spirit who spoke it was and is anti-Christ. Funny how anti-Christ as &#8216;theory&#8217; accepts cash, land and Mastercard for indulgences, huh? </p>
	<p>No. The &#8216;idea&#8217; didn&#8217;t do it. Anti-Christ is doing it.</p>
	<p>That lying spirit in your flesh (which is not you if you have indeed been born again in Jesus Christ by hearing the Word of God and not in any way by &#8216;baptismal/&#8217;holy water&#8217; regeneration&#8217;)  <b>saying that it was only a &#8216;theory&#8217; is the pretense that the lie never happened  BECAUSE it was a lie. </b> But it did and is. It is called the whole of Romanist doctrine and speech, to include purgatory.</p>
	<p>What will anti-Christ change next?</p>
	<p>And yet supposedly, you must wait on his mouth to be the certainty on which you depend to &#8216;empower your free will the right way&#8217; to earn heaven. (!) If you &#8216;don&#8217;t', then your relatives must pay cash money and be enslaved to empty ceremony/emotional busywork  to get you out of &#8216;purgatory&#8217; : generations after you are taken from flesh, your family will still be paying the Romanist for your supposed welfare if God is not merciful and delivers you and them from the lie of Romanism.</p>
	<p>There is no free will. There is only the mercy and grace of God or the lake of fire.</p>
	<p>Then there is <a href="http://christianclarityreview.wpblogs.com/go.php?http://www.butlerd.net/westchristfaqhtml.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>:</p>
	<p><em>In contrast with Purgatory, Hell is the eternal punishment of the damned. In traditional Catholic thought, people die after commiting venial (minor) sins before being able to confess and do penance for those sins, go to Purgatory. People who die after committing mortal sins but before doing penance go to Hell. Limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), is the place where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment. Limbo of the Fathers is the place where those who were born before Christ came, but who were just (i.e. good people), wait for admission to heaven (they cannot enter heaven because they are not saved in Christ). Before Vatican II, the Church consistently taught that only Roman Catholics had a chance to be saved and attain Heaven. After Vatican II, the Church began to teach that the Holy Spirit was active in other Christian denominations and therefore other Christians could be saved as well (i.e. go to Heaven). In terms of other religious traditions, Vatican II made the following statement: </p>
	<p>The non-Christian may not be blamed for his<br />
ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open<br />
to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he<br />
follows the commands of his conscience, for through<br />
this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this<br />
divine action is not confined within the limited<br />
boundaries of the visible Church.&#8221;</em></p>
	<p>Not only does the &#8220;Limob of the Fathers&#8221; directly refute God as pre-Incarnate Christ Jesus as Ever-Exisiting Word of God; not only does Moses and Elijah appearing with Christ in the transfiguartion directly refute &#8220;Limbo of the Fathers&#8221; and &#8220;purgatory&#8221;, but now the anti-Christ says one can be a  Christian WITHOUT being a Christian. (!) That a pagan can &#8216;earn heaven&#8217; by doing whatever his mind and heart tell him, but you must strictly adhere to a very rigid set of rules in order to &#8216;earn&#8217; the same thing as a Romanist. </p>
	<p>One wonders why the Romanist don&#8217;t flee en masse to the hills so as not to hear the more intricate rules they must &#8216;do&#8217; in that the more obvious pagan has more freedom from those very rules and yet &#8216;earns&#8217; the same reward: according to the compounded lies of &#8216;free will&#8217; of anti-Christ through the Romanists.</p>
	<p>Have faith in Jesus Christ/Creating Word of God , Himself as the irresistible grace of God, not in a system of non-creation of anti-Christ through men.</p>
	<p><b>Ephesians 4:17-24  This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye should no longer walk as the rest of the nations walk in the vanity of their mind,  being darkened in understanding, estranged from the life of God by reason of the ignorance which is in them, by reason of the hardness of their hearts,  who having cast off all feeling, have given themselves up to lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greedy unsatisfied lust.  But *ye* have not thus learnt the Christ, if ye have heard him and been instructed in him according as the truth is in Jesus;   namely your having put off according to the former conversation the old man which corrupts itself according to the deceitful lusts;  and being renewed in the spirit of your mind;  and your having put on the new man, which according to God is created in truthful righteousness and holiness. </b></p>
	<p>In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
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		<title>by: Steve</title>
		<link>http://christianclarityreview.wpblogs.com/2005/11/30/anti-christ-changes-his-theology-again/#comment-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Limbo was only ever a *theory*.

So changing it doesn't matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Limbo was only ever a *theory*.</p>
	<p>So changing it doesn&#8217;t matter.
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