Anti-Christ as Film: BrokeBack Mountain as Sodomite Apologia
What’s that? Brokeback Mountain? Gay film? Must be a porn film about a paraplegic who is used as a sexual toy by the sodomizers, seeing that the speech of sodomites is famous for its twisted double meanings?
No. Not quite.
Porn: Yes. But this is as literate as porn can be and has been for some decades. This is what passes as the very definition of literate for the New York publishing Houses and the Hollywood community: porn/sexual perversion wrapped as a blanket of emotional opportunity the supposed equivalent to paper money with which to buy off anything that gets in the way of accomplishing any desire. Whatever does not recognize their lies as money is attacked openly and subtilly: openly as being emotionly backward and uneducated as not recognizing true value; subtilly as attempting to advertise to the opposion the goods they are supposeldy missing as ‘proof’ of the opportunity and the supposed stupidity of resisting it.
Anti-Christ and Satan want you to shop in their store as if you had the free will to do that. Then when you ‘don’t’ they say you’ve won something. Then when you ‘don’t’ accept because God holds you in His paths as the Anchor of the soul, they go after the children with the same widgets of wickedness as if emotional candy.
The heart and mind of the reader of Annie Proulx’s short story and the viewer of the same adapted into film as sodomite apologia/manifesto is to anti-Christ the hopeful toy of anti-Christ as she explores a “repressed and unrequited” love affair between two boys/men as a missed emotional opportunity for the two of them because of the supposed ‘rural’ (and ‘ergo’ backward) ethics and moral norms of Amerika. They are ‘torn’ by their ‘love’ of ‘each other’ (even though their total value in total reality is presented to be nothing more than skin sacks of emotional opportunity for the other and all the characters, actors and actresses of Hollywood and New York are the same for each other…) in the middle of a backward/’rural’ place that can’t recognize true love because it supposedly lacks their refined emotional sophistication/skill set. Anti-Christ through Proulx says “See here? I’m explaining to you the innner workings of your own heart and I’m common sensing out why you should use your free will in the formerly forbidden way or at least let others do that with no restraint. It just makes common sense to avoid ‘the pain’. Everyone knows that the heart is God! ” What new birth? What new heart? What fall of man? What salvation? Follow your Heart! Follow your Heart!
The cover ‘art’ shows anti-Christ through two male actors mastering the look of the disappointed woman (implying they dare not look at each other lest they smooch without control ) wearing Cowboy hats (as archtypical sodomite symbols of manliness) who long to be emotionally satisfied but can’t because of those mean old moral norms of the outback and uneducated of Amerika per the film.
In anti-Christ’s own words through Proulx :
PJH: I think it’s clear to anyone who reads “Brokeback Mountain” that above all it’s a wrenching, starcrossed love story. It is about two cowboys, but it seems inaccurate to call it gay literature. How do you feel about the film being assailed as gay agitprop emerging from liberal Hollywood? Did you ever intend for the story to be controversial?
AP: Excuse me, but it is NOT a story about “two cowboys.” It is a story about two inarticulate, confused Wyoming ranch kids in 1963 who have left home and who find themselves in a personal sexual situation they did not expect, understand nor can manage. The only work they find is herding sheep for a summer ? some cowboys! Yet both are beguiled by the cowboy myth, as are most people who live in the state, and Ennis tries to be one but never gets beyond ranch hand work; Jack settles on rodeo as an expression of the Western ideal. It more or less works for him until he becomes a tractor salesman. Their relationship endures for 20 years, never resolved, never faced up to, always haunted by fear and confusion. How different readers take the story is a reflection of their own personal values, attitudes, hang-ups. It is my feeling that a story is not finished until it is read, and that the reader finishes it through his or her life experience, prejudices, world view and thoughts. Far from being “liberal,” Hollywood was afraid of the script as were many actors and agents. Of course I knew the story would be seen as controversial. I doubted it would even be published, and was pleased when The New Yorker very quickly accepted it. In the years since the story was published in 1997 I have received many letters from gay and straight men, not a few Wyoming-born. Some said, “You told my story,” some said “That is why I left Wyoming,” and a number, from fathers, said “Now I understand the hell my son went through.” I still get these heart breaking letters.
PJH: It’s hard to think of “Brokeback Mountain” and not be reminded of the murder of gay college student Matthew Shepherd in Laramie, even though your story is set in the ’60s and the Shepherd killing happened just a few years ago. Wyoming is the Equality State ? where independence, neighborliness and a live-and-let-live attitude abound ? but there’s also a bitter dislike of interlopers and change. Which is it? Is Wyoming generally a tolerant or intolerant place in your experience?
AP: Matthew Shepherd was killed a year after “Brokeback Mountain” appeared in The New Yorker. Yes, Wyoming is called the Equality State (a reference to women’s suffrage rights granted in 1869, the world’s earliest rights to women to vote and hold office), but today it is also the state where women get some of the lowest salaries in the United States for doing the same work as men, where ranch women often do outside work, raise the kids, manage the account books and much more, but often have little say in running things, do not inherit the ranch if there is a brother or son ? despite the 1869 legislators’ act “to protect Married Women in their separate property, and the enjoyment of the fruits of their labor.” Independence? How many Wyoming people depend on agricultural aid, social security, pension checks? How many small business people fight monopoly instead of competition? How many residents actually garden, put up preserves, make theirown clothes, hunt for the freezer, repair their own cars, build their own houses? Some few, of course, still do, and they are in that older rural tradition and therefore quasi-independent; such people can be found wherever there are country people ? people “with the bark on,” as Remington called them. Neighborliness is also a general rural quality in many parts of the world, in the American West based on early settlers’ need to help each other out or perish. I admire people who work hard, know how to fix things, tackle big jobs, lend a helping hand, all common rural Wyoming qualities. I respect ranchers, many of them under great duress, men and women who preserve landscape and cultural elements of the state. Although today only a miniscule percentage of the state’s income comes from ranching, ranch life remains the ideal for many here, and that’s a pretty good ideal to have and hold. Although there is generally a live-and-let-live attitude in the state, there are also bigots, mean people, haters, drug addicts, poachers, wife-beaters, kid-neglecters, embezzlers as in every other place in the world. Wyoming also has the highest suicide rate in the nation, especially among elderly, single men. The state is hardly perfect and we should not pretend it is some noble utopia. It is a complex place in its geography and its residents’ psychologies, both tolerant and intolerant ? as all of us are.
“Find themseves in ..a sexual situation”. Huh? What weird twist of events comes about that has two grown men naked and kissing each other? “Find themselves?” You mean “I placed them there as a social experiment in my mind ‘as an artist’ and am glad that that has resulted in the physical placement of two real men doing the same so the whole world can hopefully watch over and over. I just thought it would be neat if two men used their free will that way.”
According to Anti-Christ through Hollywood, New York, McMurtry and Proulx it is a crying shame that men don’t get to bend over for other men as long as they get some emotional widget from the experience. In fact, the inarticulate need the words put in their mouth of why and how they need each others butt for their ramrods while they wear cowboy hats; the mind and heart of women being so unappealing to them and women lacking balls between their legs when they bend over.
The emotion is what counts above all else for the whole literati establishment. They see emotion the same way George Bush sees ‘democracy’; a black box the moral equivalent of genuine Christianity that as long as one goes in one side and comes out the other and the process is done within the accepted etiquette of that process, it doesn’t matter what else happens or even the result: all the nicities have been observed, “ergo, ipsto facto and therefore” what is done is moral, perfect and should be accepted by all who have gone through that same process. (To anti-Christ as outlook as to how total reality works through the whole literati establishment, that means everyone without exception: you. Your children. ) They will carefully explain the emotional rules to you and enforce them as the emotional police. That’s their job as ‘artists’: to ‘make you admit’ and force you to follow their, er , your ‘heart’.
And those who won’t go through the process and who don’t observe the etiquette (those who, in the deceived mind of Proulx, McMurtry and the whole ‘art’ industry merely ‘deny that they did go through the process and indeed are still going through that process and need help’)? Backward, cowardly, ashamed and uneducated by definition.
After years of mastering the flowery yet austere sentence; perfecting the environmentals; the exact emotional description; the emotional arc (that’s ‘growth’ in anti-Christian literati parlance) as the characters progress through the black box of whatever-experience-in-search-of-emotional-widget the end result is apologia for anything goes non-morality and a loathing for any genuine Christianity.
Proulx’s and McMurtry’s (that would be Larry McMurtry, Pulitzer Prize winner for Lonesome Dove ) type of apologia is simply more of the same that Hollywood and New York have been pumping out for decades : emotional opportunity arguments told as austere repression that seek to legitimize sodomy, abortion, sexual promiscuity and moral depravity as if refined and educated searches for fundamental answers “we all have” as human beings as if there were no such thing as God, Jesus Christ, new creation in Jesus Christ, the soul, the lake of fire or even HIV/AIDS.
This movie will be the cuddle movie for sodomites the world over and is anti-Christ’s crowning achievement to date through them: the movie anti-Christ through them will throw at parents from teenagers who have been hunted down and caught by this porn/lying spirit as “see there! Other people are doing it and you won’t want me to be unsatisfied would you?!” while the sodomites wink to each other over the death of your children.
Anti-Christ through the literati strikes again. No telling the awards this piece of filth will win. “How daring! Breaks new ground!” etc..
Have I seen the movie? No.
Do I plan on seeing the movie? Not ever. Having heard the scribe used by anti-Christ to write it singing the praises of how well it resembles the story and seeing the praises the sodomite community is already heaping on it as portraying “the power of love” is more wickedness than I ever wanted to see.
Proverbs 28:26 He that confideth in his own heart is a fool; but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
This is God speaking. I finally got Comcast fast speed access and thought I’d share my thoughts. Let me ask you this: why are you people who call yourselves “christians” so obssessed with gay sex? Don’t you have other more important things to spend your time worrying about? like feeding the poor? The 40 million of your fellow citizens you have left without medical insurance? What about stopping this lethal war your dipshit president started in MY name!???
Comment by JESUS CHRIST — December 17, 2005 @ 2:37 am
1. sodomy is sin in that God forbids it. His Word on it is the only thing that makes it sin, quite indepedent from AIDS/HIV and non-creation/no-children which are merely the physical results of sin on an entire civilization.
2. What God does and says through us is His business as there is no free will, not even for you. The objection to sodomy is not that sodomites “use their free will improperly” in that there is no free will. It is that they hear the Word of God very plainly tell them to stop and prefer their own speech to God as Word: not as an action of will. They are sons of Satan. To wit:
John 8:43-47 Why do ye not know my speech? Because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of the devil, as your father, and ye desire to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks falsehood, he speaks of what is his own; for he is a liar and its father: and because I speak the truth, ye do not believe me. Which of you convinces me of sin? If I speak truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God hears the words of God: therefore ye hear them not, because ye are not of God.
3. The war is not (at least not yet) a Christian war. It is a secular war against a supposed violation of the meta rules of its emotional etiquette, a law enforcement action specifically to protect and promote forced pluralism here and Islam there, both of which are anti-Christ. This site in particular has made no secret that George Bush is NOT fighting Islam (as he should be) but has instead set up two entire Islamic nations at the cost of American Christian blood and indeed promotes Islam openly on the White House web page far above and beyond Christianity (and yet says he is a Christian…)
4. That lying spirit in your flesh should at least pretend to have some truth before he pretends to be god and the only speech in total reality. That lying spirit in your flesh is a living creature that is not you and he/it/they have been your speech up until this point, masquerading as your fundamental identity with sinful consequences through your flesh. Forgiveness by God is Him in you as Word no longer doing the works resulting from the non-creating speech of sin.
5. The only true poverty is lack of new creation in Jesus Christ and God non-metaphorically dwelling in you as Spriti and Eternal Life. Material posessions are extra. As such they have never been the primary mission of the true Church.
6. If you are not born again by hearing the Word of God, you will go to the lake of fire, sodomite or no.
7. I deleted your other post as it was only a repetition of your first.
God bless,
Isaiah 28:23 Give ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.
James 1:18 According to his own will begat he us by the word of truth, that we should be a certain first-fruits of his creatures.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — December 17, 2005 @ 3:13 am
You’re a bunch of fascists. Why don’t you and the other faith-Nazis strand yourselves on an island somewhere so we don’t have to hear this bullshit all the time?
Comment by Sean — January 5, 2006 @ 6:46 am
Wow. You’ve never seen the movie yet you make these outrageous statements about it. I’m christian and I’m very open-mided. I have no problem with homosexuality either. Love the sinner, Hate the sin, right? I think you should see this beautiful movie before you feel you can make these repugnant statements about it. Feel free to e-mail me.
Comment by Sierra — January 6, 2006 @ 1:51 am
wow. i feel like i have stumbled onto the private journals of charles manson. this guy truly pushes the boundaries of “nuts.”
Comment by dave — January 6, 2006 @ 4:10 am
Man, I’m so glad I renounced my Christianity some time ago. I have never heard such hate as I hear from any of the Christian faiths…….you even attack each other…..as in Catholics hating Protestants. How can you possibly think that someone would want to convert to your faith when you teach nothing but hate?
May your god reveal your sins to you!
Comment by David — January 6, 2006 @ 11:09 pm
David,
The fundamental error that sodomites and their apologists make is to assume their speech is the only one in total reality and that in that speech faith is a matter of choice / that in any way God can be chosen. God cannot be chosen and so makes no pretense that He must bow before the speech of the world (which is anti-Christ) or the common sense of the human heart as if that heart were not fallen in anti-Christ.
In the only speech you have, the only ’sin’ can be a transgression of the supposed rules of the fallen human heart: supposed “crimes against human speech.”
God through me doesn’t pay the dhimmi tax to fallen human emotion. God through me and many others does however Speak HIs Word that creates real, literal new creations in Jesus Christ. God as Creating Speech/Jesus Christ genuinely creates. That new creation and the giving of Himself as Word in the giving of commands is the only Love.
1 Peter 1:23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the living and abiding word of God.
1John 4:4-6 *Ye* are of God, children, and have overcome them, because greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world. *They* are of the world; for this reason they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. *We* are of God; he that knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 7, 2006 @ 12:08 am
Your smug judgementalism makes me ill.
Comment by Carl Plantinga — January 7, 2006 @ 4:41 pm
Carl,
Certainty in Jesus Christ has that effect on the deceived. I can only assume you speak for everyone at Calvin College?
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us an understanding that we should know him that is true; and we are in him that is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 7, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
As a straight Christian, I found this so unbelievably ignorant that I actually started laughing to the point I had tears in my eyes.
Here’s my point for you:
God is love. If there is love between 2 people, then God must be there.
But I already know your response. Gay people can’t feel love, right? Or something like that.
Go donate some time to a soup kitchen or something to make up for wasting your life by writing this.
Comment by Ed — January 8, 2006 @ 11:33 pm
Ed,
God is Love. But God as Love has nothing to do with human heart as it is. In order to have the heart of God one must be born again in Jesus Christ.
Ezekiel 36:25-27 And I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your uncleannesses and from all your idols will I cleanse you. And I will give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and keep mine ordinances, and ye shall do them.
Anti-Christ has a very simple formula to deceive men: “God is positive emotion! Wherever positive emotions are to be found, there is God!” Sodomites, as all sinners in the midst of their sin, ‘love’ their own sin: they have positive emotions about what they are doing and why. And they are deceived.
To be deceived and commit sin is not the same as not committing sin. To be deceived and feel positve emotions in the midst of that sin is not the same as not commiting sin.
2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani, the seer, went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate Jehovah? Therefore is wrath upon thee from Jehovah.
Do you see that, Ed? The king (the one supposedly in charge and so full of understanidng he was the teacher of others) loved but not Jehovah and God had wrath on him for it. So to simply say “All love is God” is a lie. The only real Love is God. But the alternate literal of the word ‘love’ that anti-Christ speaks through all sodomites and their apologists brings the wrath of God on them and those that tolerate them. Mere positive human emotion is not and never has been God even though men are fully deceived it is.
Hosea 4:17-18 –Ephraim is joined to idols: leave him alone. Their drink is sour; they give themselves up to whoredom; her great men passionately love their shame.
See that again Ed? The foolish ‘love’ what God calls shame and God has wrath on them for it.
again:
Micah 3:1-3 And I said, Hear, I pray you, ye heads of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel: Is it not for you to know judgment? Ye who hate the good, and love evil; who pluck off their skin from them, and their flesh from off their bones; and who eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them, and break their bones, and chop them in pieces as for the pot, and as flesh within the cauldron.
Those that ‘loved’ evil God loathed.
It would seem very plain to all Ed that God is not quite the emotional imbecile He is painted by anti-Christ through the sodomites.
You laughed till you cried, eh? Right. Even if you did (and everyone who reads the comment perfectly understands you didn’t) what does that prove? Only that you are so deceived that you genuinely think the laughter proves you wise before God; that smiles and positivisms are indeed God.
But God is not mocked and you are in sin for being an apologist for wickedness and evil and ‘loving’ to do so and claiming to be a ‘Christian’ to supposedly add legimacy for the words. If you were truly of Jesus Christ, you wouldn’t need any such thing as legitimacy in front of men. That spirit in your flesh is a liar.
Luke 11:43-44 Woe unto you, Pharisees, for ye love the first seat in the synagogues and salutations in the market-places. Woe unto you, for ye are as the sepulchres which appear not, and the men walking over them do not know it .
John 15:22,23 If I had not come and spoken to them, they had not had sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. He that hates me hates also my Father.
You cannot worship God in truth and ‘love’ the speech of this world. The speech of this world is anti-Christ.
1John 4:5-6 They are of the world; for this reason they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. We are of God; he that knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 9, 2006 @ 2:31 am
I’m not exactly sure what I believe in, but if there is a God out there, I honestly don’t think He would be very pleased to see this.
I don’t understand how one can be so…so…I can’t say ignorant, because obviously you’ve done your research. But how can you be so negetive about an emotion such as love? A man and a woman can love each other, so why not a man and a man, or a woman and a woman? I know Christians/Catholics claim it is because we were made to reproduce and create life through our partnership with the opposite sex, but how can you deny love? How can you descriminate against such a wonderful thing? I don’t see any harm being done by a man loving another man.
Like I said before, I’m not the most religious person, but I am thankful for all the things we have been given (whether it be by the Creator or not). We have been given the ability to feel, to think, and to love, which sets us apart from all other creatures. I don’t think it should matter who these gifts are shared with.
Comment by Agnostic — January 9, 2006 @ 4:35 am
get a life you crazy people. all these comments and all this hatred is enough to make me sick. There is nothing wrong with gays at all……there is however something wrong with you.
Comment by jake lance — January 9, 2006 @ 9:12 am
Ok…FACT- Homosexuality is as natural as eye color. FACT- Every other living species has a homosexual population, if it is wrong in the eyes of God then WHY DID HE MAKE EVRY OTHER LIVING SPECIES WITH A HOMOSEXUAL POPULATION??? I am not homosexual and yes I am a christian, but after seeing this movie I can honestly say that it was a movie about LOVE, the gay stuff was just the undertone. It was a beautiful film.
Comment by Mark — January 9, 2006 @ 10:37 am
god aparently made us all in his image, and that is ALL of us, black white, gay straight, and in your case ignorant, biggoted and vile. instead of focusing on what you consider to be faults with others, maybe you should start with your own.
your attitude is far from christian
Comment by loosey — January 9, 2006 @ 2:18 pm
Mark,
God created evil. Anyone who says he didn’t is anti-Christ. There also is no free will.
So: the automatic question of sodomites and their apologists is always and forver: If God made sin, and there is no free will, then why does He condemn those who sin?
Because He made some as vessels for mercy and some for vessels of wrath.
Romans 9:14-29 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Far be the thought. For he says to Moses, I will shew mercy to whom I will shew mercy, and I will feel compassion for whom I will feel compassion. So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shews mercy. For the scripture says to Pharaoh, For this very thing I have raised thee up from amongst men , that I might thus shew in thee my power, and so that my name should be declared in all the earth. So then, to whom he will he shews mercy, and whom he will he hardens. Thou wilt say to me then, Why does he yet find fault? for who resists his purpose? Aye, but thou, O man, who art *thou* that answerest again to God? Shall the thing formed say to him that has formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Or has not the potter authority over the clay, out of the same lump to make one vessel to honour, and another to dishonour? And if God, minded to shew his wrath and to make his power known, endured with much long-suffering vessels of wrath fitted for destruction; and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he had before prepared for glory, us, whom he has also called, not only from amongst the Jews, but also from amongst the nations? As he says also in Hosea, I will call not-my-people My people; and the-not-beloved Beloved. And it shall be, in the place where it was said to them, *Ye* are not my people, there shall they be called Sons of the living God. But Esaias cries concerning Israel, Should the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, the remnant shall be saved: for he is bringing the matter to an end, and cutting it short in righteousness; because a cutting short of the matter will the Lord accomplish upon the earth. And according as Esaias said before, Unless the Lord of hosts had left us a seed, we had been as Sodom, and made like even as Gomorrha.
God made some to be vessels fo wrath: those who persist in their sin sand cannto hear God. The whole reason God Speaks through real, literal new creations in Jesus Christ to those in sin is to brith them out of the speech and anti-Christ that is their natural, fallen state. The gospel becomes a condemnation when God speaks to all and only some are born again.
God Spoke to me when I was a sinner and cuased me to hear. God Spoke to Paul when he was a sinner and caused Paul to hear. But suddenly, when God Speaks to sodomites and their apologists, no one seems to hear. In truth, they become furious that anyone would even question what they do as long as they feel good about it –as if they were god.
The second question anti-Christ through them loves to ask is: If I don’t have free will, then why are you telling me? It doesn’t do any good if I can’t do anything about it.
There is an expectation that you will be born again on hearing God as Word just as all real, literal new creations in Jesus Christ. The purpose of God’s Speech is creation. Non-creating speech, the speech of the whole world and the substance of the fall of man, can create nothing. The limitations and rules of non-creating speech (which is a living creature that is anti-Christ) do not apply to God.
Quite literally to be born again is to obtain a new speech: God as Word who lives in us and Speaks through us. Those in whom Christ dwells are not sodomites. Sodomy is an anti-Christ/sin problem. It is not a “genetic” problem or a “love” solution to an emotional problem. Indeed, if it were a “genetic” problem, the CDC would be all over it as a disease to be fought in defense of humanity as it would mean no new creation (as a result of its speech) and therefore not only no children, but leathal disease besides.
Very plain to have anit-Christ as speech is to have a lens/mind and agenda of non-creation and death. Thus to hear God is to be saved: to be born again.
Yet anti-Christ says through many that they are both of Christ and still sodomites. Not happening.
God says those in Him are free of the flesh –not slaves to the flesh as are all sodomites and their apologists:
Romans 8:5-14 For they that are according to flesh mind the things of the flesh; and they that are according to Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind of the flesh is death; but the mind of the Spirit life and peace. Because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God; for neither indeed can it be: and they that are in flesh cannot please God. But *ye* are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed God’s Spirit dwell in you; but if any one has not the Spirit of Christ *he* is not of him: but if Christ be in you, the body is dead on account of sin, but the Spirit life on account of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that has raised up Jesus from among the dead dwell in you, he that has raised up Christ from among the dead shall quicken your mortal bodies also on account of his Spirit which dwells in you. So then, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to flesh; for if ye live according to flesh, ye are about to die; but if, by the Spirit, ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live: for as many as are led by the Spirit of God, *these* are sons of God.
Ephesians 2:1-7 and *you*, being dead in your offences and sins– in which ye once walked according to the age of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience: among whom *we* also all once had our conversation in the lusts of our flesh, doing what the flesh and the thoughts willed to do, and were children, by nature, of wrath, even as the rest: but God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love wherewith he loved us, (we too being dead in offences,) has quickened us with the Christ, (ye are saved by grace,) and has raised us up together, and has made us sit down together in the heavenlies in Christ Jesus, that he might display in the coming ages the surpassing riches of his grace in kindness towards us in Christ Jesus.
Gene Robinson and his like are damned as they are sent for no other purpose than to seduce as many as possible, not merely into sodomy, but to hold them capitve in the anti-Christ as the speech of apology as if that speech were God as Word.
1Peter 2:8 and a stone of stumbling and rock of offence; who stumble at the word, being disobedient to which also they have been appointed.
The pretence of anti-Christ is that there is only one speech in total reality, that it is non-creating and “we” are merely “using language” in ‘free’ will. It attemtps to be the Word of God and yet can create nothing, a truth refelcted in its captives behavior and desires. God very plainly says that to equate Him as Word to the speech of demons (non-creating speech/anti-Christ) is to be eternally damned.
Mark 3:22-30 And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem said, He has Beelzebub, and, By the prince of the demons he casts out demons. And having called them to him , he said to them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? And if a kingdom has become divided against itself, that kingdom cannot subsist. And if a house has become divided against itself, that house cannot subsist. And if Satan rise up against himself, and is divided, he cannot subsist, but has an end. But no one can, having entered into his house, plunder the goods of the strong man unless he first bind the strong man , and then he will plunder his house. Verily I say unto you, that all sins shall be forgiven to the sons of men, and all the injurious speeches with which they may speak injuriously; but whosoever shall speak injuriously against the Holy Spirit, to eternity has no forgiveness; but lies under the guilt of an everlasting sin; –because they said, He has an unclean spirit.
Men are deceived they must fight to speak, for the right to speak. The reality is that they cannot stop and therefore God says:
Psalm 58:3-5 The wicked go astray from the womb; they err as soon as they are born, speaking lies. Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder which stoppeth her ear; Which doth not hearken to the voice of enchanters, of one charming ever so wisely.
Their poison is anti-Christ and he is not them though they are deceived anti-Christ is always elsewhere as he defines himself in their mind (which is him)
to be something it just so happens they never supposedly encounter.
You are fallen men, arming yourselves as best you can to the teeth with anti-Christ/arguments against the other guy who is supposedly spreading the thing called fall that goes against your own desires. But God very plainly says that out opf the human heart come the things that defile men.
Matthew 15:18-20 but the things which go forth out of the mouth come out of the heart, and those defile man. For out of the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witnessings, blasphemies; these are the things which defile man; but the eating with unwashen hands does not defile man.
But what does anti-Christ say? “Follow your heart! What ever comes out of the heart is automatically good! What “fall of man”? There is no new birth and no such thing as Creating Speech!”
And God very plainly says:
Proverbs 28:26 He that confideth in his own heart is a fool; but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
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You will note that what you just read is not likely to be scrawled on the wall in a nasty restroom at a nasty truck stop. Those walls are for the most part reseverded for the speech of anti-Christ and sodomites.
Proverbs 3:5-8 Confide in Jehovah with all thy heart, and lean not unto thine own intelligence; in all thy ways acknowledge him, and he will make plain thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes; fear Jehovah, and depart from evil: it shall be health for thy navel, and moisture for thy bones.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 9, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Comment by SJW — January 9, 2006 @ 7:18 pm
do u eat the meat of a pig?
do u ever work on a sunday?
have u ever worn clothing made of 2 different materials?
hav u ever planted to plants side by side?
if so, your GOD, says u should be put to death….or are u another christian who picks and chooses what parts of the bible to pay attention 2?
I thought as much
David
Comment by David McLean — January 9, 2006 @ 7:23 pm
Oh for heavens sake.
You christians don’t really follow science, do you? Well, if you’re going to abuse a stereotype in your comments about homosexuality then let me join in and say you probably aren’t up on the latest scientific discoveries.
Well get this.
Science has proven that homosexuality is something engrained in a person at a BIOLOGICAL level. A hormone released during the foetus’ growth determines the sexuality of that foetus. That is a scientific fact.
That being the case, if you believe that God has a hand in the conception of every child, He makes a child gay.
But I don’t expect you to believe that. Your review of this movie is beyond compassion, understanding and reason. Doesn’t your God tell you to love thy neighbour? Well hate to break it to you love, but homosexuality has been around for a very, very long time and it’s here to stay. So whine and bleat and curse all you want, but you are not changing anything. You are just offending a lot of beautiful, decent and caring people who you’ll need on your side when the world starts to realise that your religion, your God, whatever, has caused more problems than it will ever solve.
So you can keep your “reviews” (you haven’t even seen the film, you idiot, therefore you have no right to comment), your faith and your curses to yourself. This world doesn’t care for them anymore.
“The Bible says that God made his own son flesh to better understand his human children and to save them from sin. God promises to love all his children unconditionally. If God created me, why would He abandon me for simply being what He made me? I got against no God but the God of supposed morality,” - Adam Eden, to his BOYFRIEND Michael Adams-Harris
Comment by Draven — January 9, 2006 @ 7:37 pm
It was just a matter of time until the “cast the first stone” canard showed up along with the list of laws Christians must supposedly follow in order to get to heaven as if any had ‘free’ will. The “beam in eye” canard surely follows behind as if every soul were always blind as piety.
Unfortunately for anti-Christ, because God actually and non-metaphorically lives in me and all those who have been born again as real, literal new creation in Jesus Christ, we are not sinners, as Christ has fulfilled the law on the cross and truimphed over death in the resurretion.
Sin is not a mere act, but is a living creature. Sin lives in the flesh of even the new creation in Jesus Christ –even my own flesh –but it is not me and not part at all of my fundamental identity as new creation in Jesus Christ.
God says very plainly as spirit and life:
Romans 7:15-20 For that which I do, I do not own: for not what I will, this I do; but what I hate, this I practise. But if what I do not will, this I practise, I consent to the law that it is right. Now then it is no longer *I* that do it, but the sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, good does not dwell: for to will is there with me, but to do right I find not. For I do not practise the good that I will; but the evil I do not will, that I do. But if what *I* do not will, this I practise, it is no longer *I* that do it, but the sin that dwells in me.
Very obviously God makes a distinction between the new creation and the flesh and the sin that lives in the flesh:
Galatians 5:17,18 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these things are opposed one to the other, that ye should not do those things which ye desire; but if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under law.
As well, God very plainly says that as new creation in Jesus Christ, we cannot sin, as we have been permanently separated from sin in new birth:
1John 3:6-9 Whoever abides in him, does not sin: whoever sins, has not seen him or known him. Children, let no man lead you astray; he that practises righteousness is righteous, even as *he* is righteous. He that practises sin is of the devil; for from the beginning the devil sins. To this end the Son of God has been manifested, that he might undo the works of the devil. Whoever has been begotten of God does not practise sin, because his seed abides in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been begotten of God.
Sin is anti-Christ. Anti-Christ is sin as speech –non-creating speech and all it supposed “knowledge”. Anti-Christ is the non-creating speech of sin.It is both one and a group; an ‘it’ and a ‘them’.
Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he says to him, Legion is my name, because we are many.
So: that lying spirit in your flesh is wrong on both counts: not only am I genuinely without sin, such that if God wanted to cast a stone through me I would be guiltless before Him, but He has not cast a stone through me in merely plainly Speaking through me that sodomy is great wickedness and all those hardened in sodomy and their apologist will burn in the lake of fire. God speaks not merely to accuse, as does anti-Christ, but to create those that hear Him as Word as new creations in Jesus Christ.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit which quickens, the flesh profits nothing: the words which I have spoken unto you are spirit and are life.
To hear God is to be born again –to hear God’s Word and know Him as separate and distinct from anti-Christ/sin/non-creating speech/legion/demons.
Act 22:14,15 And he said, The God of our fathers has chosen thee beforehand to know his will, and to see the just one, and to hear a voice out of his mouth; for thou shalt be a witness for him to all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
James 1:18 According to his own will begat he us by the word of truth, that we should be a certain first-fruits of *his* creatures.
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2Corinthians 5:16-18 So that *we* henceforth know no one according to flesh; but if even we have known Christ according to flesh, yet now we know him thus no longer. So if any one be in Christ, there is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold all things have become new: and all things are of the God who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and given to us the ministry of that reconciliation:
James 4:4 Adulteresses, know ye not that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore is minded to be the friend of the world is constituted enemy of God.
1John 2:17 And the world is passing, and its lust, but he that does the will of God abides for eternity.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 9, 2006 @ 8:00 pm
Draven,
1. That lying spirit in your flesh attempts to use the word ’science’ to prove basically that the sodomites don’t have free will as regards sodomy. They do that because you are already deceived men have free will in other areas. Quite besides the point (in non-creating speech) that science has never proved any connection between genetics and “sexual orientation” and quite besides the point that anti-Christ through sodomites simply keeps on lyingly saying that “science” is their excuse and hoping everyone will be deceived that mere lack of free will is an automatic excuse for sin. Anti-Christ tries to take advantage of yours and others own deception that free will exists –at all, to deceive you into worse and worse sins, the whole while crying “I can’t help it –really! Science says so!” as if ‘absolution’.
In truth there is no such thing as free will. God through me has never even implied that sodomy is a mere “wrong use of the free will” and that sodomites should in self-will “clean up their act”. The whole thing is that there is no free will and that without non-metaphorical new birth in Jesus Christ there is only the lake of fire. I heard God as Word and was born again as new creation. Why not you?
How is it that many have heard God as Word and said “I can’t hear you! I can only hear what makes me happy as I am. I don’t need new birth.”
Act 17:32-34 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked, and some said, We will hear thee again also concerning this. Thus Paul went out of their midst. But some men joining themselves to him believed; among whom also was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman by name Damaris, and others with them.
I am a witness against this whole generation who cannot hear God. “Science” can’t help you because there never has been free will at all. Christianity is new birth and personal relationshipo with Jesus Christ, not an ideal model of behavior one supposedly follows in self-will. But what we plainly see is that when God non-metaphorically lives in us and Speaks through us, –no sodomy but indeed, wrath on Sodom.
Anti-Christ is a liar. And God doesn’t call those who do not know Him as Word of God mis-educated persons. He calls them sons of Satan:
John 8:43-45 Why do ye not know my speech? Because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of the devil, as your father, and ye desire to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks falsehood, he speaks of what is his own; for he is a liar and its father: and because I speak the truth, ye do not believe me.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 9, 2006 @ 8:30 pm
Ok, since when is their no free will? I thought that was God’s gift to humanity to make us different from rocks and stuff.
I’m Orthodox Christian. I’ll save you the research, but we broke off from the Catholics way back in 1054. So, when did you born-agains start showing up? Mid 1700s, 1800s, or maybe in the 1600s. Whatever. So tell me this, is everyone who was born before this time, which from my knowledge, would include most saints, martyrs, apostles and the like.
Does God actually speak to you? With words? I’d like to know this.
Your God seems to be one based on torment and malice rather than Love and redemption. As Christians, born again, Catholic, Protestant or otherwise, I was under the impression we had the same God.
Perhaps I’m wrong. But I pray that maybe, you see the Love of God, and the forgiveness. Wether or not Homosexuality is a sin or not, I don’t believe any loving Creator would condemn his own children to an eternity of torment.
Once again, Ed.
Comment by Ed — January 9, 2006 @ 11:54 pm
I must make an edit. I accidently cut part of one of my sentences.
At the end of the 2nd grouping, after “and the like” the rest of my thought is “burning in the lake of fire”
So, the full statement is “So tell me this, is everyone who was born before this time, which from my knowledge, would include most saints, martyrs, apostles and the like buring in the lake of fire.”
This is to make sure my actual point gets across.
Comment by Ed — January 10, 2006 @ 12:25 am
Ed,
Born agains as real, literal new creations in Jesus Christ have always been the Christians. We are in the Bible and in heaven and here on earth irrespective and in spite of schisms over the centuries.
The human heart as it is without new birth will never make sense of God; in particular God will never make emotional sense to fallen men.
God created at least two hearts: those of beasts and those of men and gives them to whom ever He pleases.
God giving a beast a man’s heart:
Daniel 7:3,4 And four great beasts came up from the sea, different one from another. The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till its wings were plucked; and it was lifted up from the earth, and made to stand upon two feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
God giving a man a beast’s heart:
Daniel 4:16 Let his heart be changed from man’s, and let a beast’s heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.
Those with the fallen heart of men think that the whole universe must somehow be explained in non-creating speech and within the confines of the emotional common sense of their own heart as if it were the only heart in total reality and encapsulated the whole of God. But God says:
Isaiah 55:8,9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith Jehovah. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
So God very plainly says that you must be born again:
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except any one be born anew he cannot see the kingdom of God.
God also says how you are born again –by hearing the Word of God:
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
and
1 Peter 1:23-25 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
This is the gospel being written and Speaking to you in this post.
Seeing that the speech of sin, non-creating speech/anti-Christ in which men are physically born into is of no effect for new birth, (if it were, God would not need to Speak as Himself as Word/Jesus Christ for new creation) how is it that you are still deceived that the old speech and its lie of “compassion” which is directly against God’s commands would have any truth in it at all? God plainly says of sodomites:
Romans 1:26-32 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Satan’s version of ‘compassion’ and ‘love’ is to hate God’s commands and God as Word. God says of Satan’s “compassion”:
Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
Just because Satan seems to do postive emotions that seem to the fallen human heart to be pleasant and positive in no way makes him God as Love or what Satan does righteous simply becuase it is an emotional positve to the fallen human heart..
It is Truth that God is Love. But God is not human emotion. For we see God plainly telling a king of Israel that he has trespassed because he loved evildoers who were the enemies of God:
2Chronciales 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani, the seer, went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate Jehovah? Therefore is wrath upon thee from Jehovah.
Satan always presents disobediance and non-hearing of God as if a temporary emotional emergency that requires you to say that God’s commands aren’t really binding in order to “do emotion properly” (the wordlly way) –and the supposed “doing of emotion God would do if He were here” –constantly implying God’s absence. But God is in you if indeed you have been born again as new creation in Jesus Christ and you no longer have the heart or speech of the world.
1Corinthians 3:16,17 Do ye not know that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any one corrupt the temple of God, *him* shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are *ye*.
1John 4:4-6 *Ye* are of God, children, and have overcome them, because greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world. *They* are of the world; for this reason they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. *We* are of God; he that knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 10, 2006 @ 12:55 am
Ed,
God is His Word and always has been.
John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. *He* was in the beginning with God. All things received being through him, and without him not one thing received being which has received being. In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
And the light appears in darkness, and the darkness apprehended it not.
Adam and Eve were born again as were all subsequent elect persons.
God as Word was the pre-Incarnate Christ:
1Corinthians 10:3-7 and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank of a spiritual rock which followed them : (now the rock was the Christ;) yet God was not pleased with the most of them, for they were strewed in the desert. But these things happened as types of us, that we should not be lusters after evil things, as they also lusted. Neither be ye idolaters, as some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
But on being made flesh, Jesus Christ/Word of God came into the creation He had Himself Spoken into being:
John 1:12-14 but as many as received him, to them gave he the right to be children of God, to those that believe on his name; who have been born, not of blood, nor of flesh’s will, nor of man’s will, but of God. And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we have contemplated his glory, a glory as of an only-begotten with a father), full of grace and truth;
All the saints of the Bible are new creations in Jesus Christ. Christianity did not start with the mere Incarnation but was the Same Truth from the beginning. All those of God heard God and HIs Word entered them as Himself. He says to those who could not hear Him:
John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word has no entrance in you.
and
John 8:43-45 Why do ye not know my speech? Because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of the devil, as your father, and ye desire to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks falsehood, he speaks of what is his own; for he is a liar and its father: and because I speak the truth, ye do not believe me.
but to us God says:
1John 4:4-6 *Ye* are of God, children, and have overcome them, because greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world. *They* are of the world; for this reason they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. *We* are of God; he that knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Those who say men have freedom of the will deny Christ is the Word of God and separate and distinct from the non-creating speech of sin. Indeed, only a “non-interfereing”/non-creating speech could speak and say as speech that those who heard it had ‘free will’ else they are changed by hearing it. You ARE changed by hearing God: you receive a new spirit, a new heart and God’s Spirit in your spirit. But anti-Christ can create nothing and so must say you have free will as it seems a logical validation of him as the supposed only speech in total reality. But there are two speaks in total reality: God is One, He created the other who is anti-christ –for His own purposes.
Isaiah 45:5-7 I am Jehovah, and there is none else; there is no God beside me: I girded thee, and thou hast not known me; –that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the going down, that there is none beside me. I am Jehovah, and there is none else; forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.
Isaiah 48:4-17 Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass, so I have long ago declared them to thee; before they came to pass I caused thee to hear them ; lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, or my molten image hath commanded them. Thou heardest, see all this; –and ye, will not ye declare it ? I have caused thee to hear new things from this time, and things hidden, and that thou knewest not: they are created now, and not long ago; and before this day thou hast not heard them, lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them. Yea, thou heardest not, yea, thou knewest not, yea, from of old thine ear was not opened; for I knew that thou wouldest ever deal treacherously, and thou wast called a transgressor from the womb. For my name’s sake I will defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain as to thee, that I cut thee not off. Behold, I have refined thee, but not as silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. For mine own sake, for mine own sake, will I do it ; for how should my name be profaned? and I will not give my glory unto another. Hearken unto me, Jacob, and thou Israel, my called. I am HE; I, the first, and I, the last. Yea, my hand hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spread abroad the heavens: I call unto them, they stand up together. All ye, gather yourselves together, and hear: which among them hath declared these things? He whom Jehovah hath loved shall execute his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans. I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him; I have brought him, and his way shall be prosperous. Come near unto me, hear ye this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord Jehovah hath sent me, and his Spirit. Thus saith Jehovah, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am Jehovah thy God, who teacheth thee for thy profit, who leadeth thee in the way that thou shouldest go.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Comment by presbyter — January 10, 2006 @ 1:15 am
It’s proven that homosexuals aren’t homosexual by their own choice, it is something they are born with. Not to question the bible, but there wasn’t a very deep understanding of genes and homosexuality when the bible was written, but now there is.
Therefore, you cannot argue that God wants us to hate his own children.
I think you should be a little less ignorant, and instead of complaining about things that have no negative effect on the world, go out and do something useful. Even stopping posts like this would do.
but hey, if you have a valid argument, feel free to email me, though I’m slightly doubtful.
thatshortdankid@hotmail.com
Comment by Dan — January 10, 2006 @ 1:44 am
Love is something that is universal. I love you presbyter - even though you seem gladly willing to fill the position of god, and judge according to your own will. One in three people have some form of mental illness, but with understanding we can all fulfill a meaningful role in our communities; take heart in that.
Comment by Luke — January 10, 2006 @ 6:30 am
I know I’m not going to be able to sway your opinion on the matter, because you appear to be just as arrogant as you are pathetically ignorant, so instead I am going to invite you to go and stick your head in a pig.
Hugs and kisses,
Frank
P.S. Learn to spell or drop the delusions of eloquence. It makes you look even more ridiculous.
Comment by Frank Snow — January 10, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
Hey get this you idiot
If there’s no free will
Then how come your church isn’t all powerful? How come you and your close minded views aren’t running the world?
I use my free will every day.
I use it to write stories about love between two men. I use it to write stories about love between a man and a woman. I use it to write stories about right and wrong, addiction and redemption.
And it’s free will that has my middle finger up at the screen right now.
So you tell me there’s no free will.
I tell you to look at yourself. If you’re full of love, how come you’re so hateful?
There will always be people like you, people who don’t understand and use religion as both a shield and a weapon. But you’re dying out and you know it. That’s why you say all these horrible, hateful things, to provoke a reaction, so people know you’re still around.
I feel bad for you. One day you’re going to realise that no god would want his followers (and that’s all you are, a follower) to treat people this way. In the words of my own character, the immensely popular and proudly GAY Adam Eden:
“The Bible says that God made his own son flesh to better understand his human children and to save them from sin. God promises to love all his children unconditionally. If God created me, why would He abandon me for simply being what He made me? I got against no God but the God of supposed morality,” - Adam Eden, to his BOYFRIEND Michael Adams-Harris
Comment by Draven — January 10, 2006 @ 6:36 pm
Ha! Ha! You sound like an uber repressed homosexual yourself Presbyter - afraid to go see this amazing movie in case you see some aspects of yourself on the screen? Deffo sounds like it!
Get a life and get living - I’m a Catholic from a predominantly Catholic country, and it is accepted that the Old Testament is a pile of crap - old stories passed down through centuries with no reliabilty intact. They were ananolgies used to explain various points - Let me guess Adam and Eve were responible for populating the earth? Get real! You and your born again Christian posse (and other religious fundamentalist groups that spread condemnation, bigotry, hatred and claim to have moral superiority) are the problem with the world today. Chill out and see the world for what it could be - a place where all of us can love and be loved - only then will we fully realise our full potential.
Comment by Ian — January 12, 2006 @ 2:53 pm
Heath Ledger, who plays one of the central protagonists in ‘Brokeback Mountain’, said this in an interview in Australia: “If I never get offered another part because I played a gay character in a gay film, then f**k Hollywood.” Althugh this is talking about his future career as an actor, I say this goes to you too.
I am a Christian who believes that gay people have as much right to love as everyone else on this planet does: ‘free will’ allows them this right. I live by Christian law because it signifies peace, not hate. Reading this makes me believe that it is you who is the anti-Christ, not the people who made, or enjoy, this film.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Comment by Rebecca — January 15, 2006 @ 1:29 pm
You truly disgust me.
LOVE IS LOVE, REGARDLESS OF GENDER.
Homosexuality isn’t a choice.
This is a beautiful film.
I hope God forgives YOU.
Comment by Sarah — January 22, 2006 @ 7:03 pm
I thought Christians wern’t supposed to judge? This is a free country and if someone wants to make a gay cowboy movie in America so be it… Gays have just as much as a right to be gay than Christians have a right to be Christians. Jesus died the same no matter what…..Besides, he’s the only one that earns the right to cast stones.
Maybe if you bible beaters wern’t thumping so loud you could hear what God is really saying and most likely he’s saying “my children need to stop acting like self centered morons and let me deal with the worlds crap”
*life’s been better since I left the church. Thank God*
Comment by Mike — January 29, 2006 @ 12:00 pm
New Creations in Jesus Christ do not judge. God dwells in us and He is the Judge and has not changed Himself from being His Own Word and Spirit even once. It is the constant denial of Him as Word through us that condemns you, the constant equating of God as Word with the speech of lies that speaks through you. The more you try to hang on to the lie of ‘choice’ the worse you become.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit which quickens, the flesh profits nothing: the words which I have spoken unto you are spirit and are life.
Matthew 12:30-37 He that is not with me is against me, and he that gathers not with me scatters. For this reason I say unto you, Every sin and injurious speaking shall be forgiven to men, but speaking injuriously of the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men. And whosoever shall have spoken a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age nor in the coming one . Either make the tree good, and its fruit good; or make the tree corrupt, and its fruit corrupt. For from the fruit the tree is known. Offspring of vipers! how can ye speak good things, being wicked? For of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man out of the good treasure brings forth good things; and the wicked man out of the wicked treasure brings forth wicked things. But I say unto you, that every idle word which men shall say, they shall render an account of it in judgment-day: for by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
It is a common lie among sodomites and thier apologists that all is excused by the mere phrase “God is love”. You will be quite shocked on the day of judgement, after having mocked and refused God’s Word to find the supposed bullet-proof shield of “God is Love!” spoken as non-creating speech.anti-Christ is more worthless as a shield from the wrath of God than paper.
1John 4:5,6 *They* are of the world; for this reason they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. *We* are of God; he that knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
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Actually, Microsoft is sort of a mixture between the Borg and the Ferengi.
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Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals.
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Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345!
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Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345!
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Yep
If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed…
…Oh, wait a minute, he already does.
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