Another Fuller Apostacy under the word Evangelical
More lies from Fuller and Company.
excerpted from CNN’s politics section ” ‘An Evangelical Manifesto’ criticizes politics of faith”
The statement, called “An Evangelical Manifesto,” condemns Christians on the right and left for using faith to express political views without regard to the truth of the Bible, according to a draft of the document obtained Friday by The Associated Press.
“That way faith loses its independence, Christians become ‘useful idiots’ for one political party or another, and the Christian faith becomes an ideology,” according to the draft.
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Among the signers of the manifesto are Os Guiness, a well-known evangelical author and speaker, and Richard Mouw, president of Fuller Theological Seminary, a leading evangelical school in Pasadena, California. Organizers declined to comment until the final document is released.
The heretics at Fuller ‘Theological’ ‘Seminary’ are once again in the service of Satan in the public eye. They have a long history of such. A perfect history of such. Along with what are being billed as “leading evangelical” ..somebodies, who may or may not have been built up in the press in the past as “influential”, now Satan has ‘decided’ that evangelicals ( that word he keeps trying to cast over all things Protestant and redefine whenever he and his free willer policies need a boost ) need to get away from political discourse and action. It seems to them that political discourse and action “pollutes” the gospel.
That lie would be in keeping with the lie of free will: if you are doing one thing with your ‘free will’, how can you be doing another ‘better’ thing? And isn’t the gospel the Best Thing to do with your ‘free will’ in the eyes of all free willers who are false Christians? Can’t we ‘do’ the gospel whenever we want? Don’t they ‘do’ the ‘gospel’ and get loads of people to ‘open their hearts’ and ‘choose Jesus’ all their lives as their best honesty? And because it is their best honesty isn’t it necessarily the reality and “gospel”?
They certainly are deceived it is. They want you to join them in ‘agreement’ and get lots of people to choose Jesus like nobodies business.
The problem of of course is that you can’t choose Jesus at all. He comes to you as His Word and births you again or you are not a Christian but a religionists deceived by lying spirits in your own flesh that they are you and you are a follower of the real Jesus Christ. God Speaks Himself as Gospel/Creating Word/Jesus Christ to you or you don;t hear Him. No one “decides” to suddenly ’start speaking the gospel’ whenever they want. There would be no need then for us to “stop politics” long enough to do so. It is just as of Christ Jesus to build and protect by force of arms as God does it through us a place where real Christians can grow and be blessed as a sovereign nation as it is to be spoken through by God His true gospel.
God explicitly Says we are NOT the speakers of the gospel:
Matthew 10:20 For *ye* are not the speakers, but the Spirit of your Father which speaks in you.
Because there is no free will, we as new creatures in Jesus Christ/Christians can’t be manipulated that we ought to be doing some other thing than whatever it is we are doing: God has us doing what He wills. Liars who are not Christians seek to out-do what they see as weak versions of their own ‘Christianity’ and thus think of themselves as “leaders” expressly because of that worthless and deceiving ‘doing’. Yet all they do is lie.
Jesus Christ says to them not that they are good people with bad theology but that they are sons of Satan even though they thought of themselves as true worshipers of God:
John 8:41 -50 Ye do the works of your father. They said therefore to him, We are not born of fornication; we have one father, God. Jesus said to them, If God were your father ye would have loved me, for I came forth from God and am come from him ; for neither am I come of myself, but *he* has sent me. Why do ye not know my speech? Because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of the devil, as your father, and ye desire to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks falsehood, he speaks of what is his own; for he is a liar and its father: and because I speak the truth, ye do not believe me. Which of you convinces me of sin? If I speak truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God hears the words of God: therefore ye hear them not, because ye are not of God. The Jews answered and said to him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan and hast a demon? Jesus answered, I have not a demon; but I honour my Father, and ye dishonour me. But I do not seek my own glory: there is he that seeks and judges.
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Let’s look at some things that Fuller ‘Theological’ ‘Seminary’ has ‘offered’ the United States of America as ‘truth’:
Recently:
Promotion of a movie/’documentary’ that tells sodomites they are okay and that from Jesus Christ no harm will come to them and seduces Christians to look away from Jesus Christ and into their own hearts to see what is really emotionally convenient for themselves as opposed to Scripture, against Jesus Christ and against the Spirit of Truth as if there were no Spirit of Truth but only personal interpretation of the Word; a film called “Because the Bible tells me So” :
From 365Gay.com
The documentary features many pro-gay veterans of the theological debates.
Among them is the Rev. Mel White, the former ghost writer for the Rev. Jerry Falwell and founder of the gay and lesbian advocacy group Soulforce. So is Jimmy Creech, the former United Methodist pastor who lost his clergy credentials in the late 1990s for conducting same-sex union ceremonies. South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu and the Rev. Peter Gomes, the prominent preacher and Harvard Divinity School professor, also make a case for acceptance.
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Craig Detweiler, director of Reel Spirituality, a think tank for pastors and filmmakers at Fuller Theological Seminary, a prominent evangelical school in Pasadena, saw the documentary when it premiered at the 2007 Sundance Film Festival with a group of Fuller students, who invited Karslake to meet with them afterward to discuss the movie.
Detweiler said he admires the film because “it explores the human cost of the culture war. I think it tries to move the conversation beyond politics into the personal.”
Supposedly, there are no such things as new creatures in Jesus Christ and us poor, deceived Christians are taking God at His Word and need re-education to be more in line with worldly emotions and the ‘fun’ that can supposedly be had with just going along. Message from Satan through Fuller: ‘Christians’ ought to accept homosexuality and stay out of politics.
Relevant research even from other free willers on Fuller: Tracing the Roots and Lausanne. Those resources are well worth the read even given their free willer slant.
Here, Richard Mouw, president of Fuller, endorses the Harry Potter books because “they make a distinction between good and evil”.
J.K. Rowling’s Christian critics are deeply concerned about their children. They see so many things in our culture that make raising children in the Christian faith difficult. Many evangelical teachers and preachers make much these days of the theme of “spiritual warfare”; Satan, they insist, is very busy attempting to influence our hearts and minds, turning us from the paths of obedience so clearly marked out in the Scriptures.
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I don’t think these concerns are silly. Christian people must be continually on guard against the designs of the Evil One. But I still like the Harry Potter stories. And my positive verdict is also grounded in Christian considerations. I take some comfort from the fact that other evangelicals have come to Harry Potter’s defense. Charles Colson wrote a short commentary speaking well of the books. Alan Jacobs, a Wheaton College literature professor, recently wrote a lengthy review in the journal First Things that defended Harry Potter. Both evangelical leaders point out that, unlike so much that is associated with the occult, the Potter stories make a clear distinction between good and evil–which means that these tales have much in common with the wonderful fantasy stories written by C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and other Christian writers who also used “magical” themes.
He is plainly stating that occult books make a distinction between actual good and evil based on non-creating speech –the same speech he worships and has. Who needs the Word of God to know the difference in that scenario even if good and evil were simple matters of “choosing” and “intent” by ‘free’ willed beings and sin were simply an “act” and not a living creature? Good and evil in reality is only distinguished by what God Says and the distinction between God as Word and non-creating speech/anti-Christ. But in the lie of free will there is only one speech in total reality, it is non-creating speech and whatever else it may be and do it must be ‘will-neutral’ else the speaking of it negates free will. What gospel that creates new creatures in Jesus Christ by His Speaking Himself to us?
In short, there has not been one heresy Fuller has not been in the forefront as either the originator or enthusiastic supporter, “thinking out” for the rest of us what we ought to do in a fallen world –with our “free will”. Their number one effort of deception as God causes them to do it is to worship, with a few change-ups for camouflage, the fallen human heart as if there had been no Fall of Man and certainly no need or actual existence of new creation by act of Word of God/Jesus Christ combined with an implicit but plain denial of the two speaks in total reality.
They have always constantly implied new creatures in Jesus Christ do not and cannot exist in that a de facto definition of a new creature in Jesus Christ according to them is going along with whatever they say the human emotions ought to feel as a new emotional intelligence and best honesty as “the Christian thing to do”. They are nothing more than programmers for the occult as a occult/witchcraft/’psy’-ops center against the citizens of the United States and all real Christians in the world.
Do not step aside for snakes. Do not be deceived. As to them, they always seek to portray they are pious and out-piousing others. Thus thier self-styled “leadership”. Yet God Says of them that they are always..:
2Timothy 3:5-9 ..having a form of piety but denying the power of it: and from these turn away. For of these are they who are getting into houses, and leading captive silly women, laden with sins, led by various lusts, always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now in the same manner in which Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, thus these also withstand the truth; men corrupted in mind, found worthless as regards the faith. But they shall not advance farther; for their folly shall be completely manifest to all, as that of those also became.
But as for us in us God Says:
2Timothy 3:12-15 And all indeed who desire to live piously in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. But wicked men and juggling impostors shall advance in evil, leading and being led astray. But *thou*, abide in those things which thou hast learned, and of which thou hast been fully persuaded, knowing of whom thou hast learned them ; and that from a child thou hast known the sacred letters, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation, through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Act 12:24 But the word of God grew and spread itself.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Am I now come up without Jehovah against this place to destroy it? Jehovah said to me, Go up against this land and destroy it. 2 Kings 18:25
Anti-Christ tried the lie that God had sent him to conqueor Jerusalem through the Assyrians. But God says to the worshipers of demons who hate Jesus Christ and Israel: "But I know thine abode, and thy going out, and thy coming in, And thy raging against me." 2 Kings 19:27