To all homosexuals and lesbians and their apologists
A reply as exposure of a lie going around by the homosexual front on the net in the pretense that:
1. as a anonymous poster on a representative religious forum the poster is ‘already born again’ AND has since become gay or bi-sexual or transgendered after their new birth
2. Jesus supposedly never spoke against sexual perversion directly as speaking against homosexuality or lesbianism or bi-sexuality, etc..
3. the poster is ‘just asking’ about why Christian’s don’t answer him ‘in a non-judgmental manner’
1. you are living in sin AND not in free will. You are a prisoner of a demon that tells you he can’t exist because you have supposed free will. So you were never born again . I suspect someone told you you were because you repeated a certain prayer, or went forward in a meeting,etc which is classic arminian/free willer subterfuge and is a counterfeit gospel as is well known –and that is on the supposition that you are honest and not just posing a question you hope will be theologically difficult and politically helpful to your cause on that very basis
2. as a result of that deception, that demon in you is masquerading as your identity and wrongly parsing Jesus Christ from his followers and is seeking to maintain a lie that says Jesus Christ is not the Word of God when He was plainly manifested as that very Word.
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we have contemplated his glory, a glory as of an only-begotten with a father), full of grace and truth;
Pre-Incarnate Christ as the Word of God spoke against homosexuality in the old testament as you know very well.
The Word of God is personified in the Old Testament as a Person who comes to speak, not simply as ‘thoughts’ that somehow coalesce in the mind of the writer. The phrase, “came unto me saying” in “Word of Jehovah came unto me saying” occurs 59 times in the OLD TESTAMENT. The ’saying’ part of that phrase indicates the Word was a Person that came and then Spoke and Spoke Creating Speech as opposed to the non-creating speech going on all around the writer through men. A very clear and unambiguous instance of that personification doing something only a Person in a body, and that Person as God Himself as that Word could do is touching, to wit:
Jer 1:4-10 And the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I hallowed thee, I appointed thee a prophet unto the nations. And I said, Alas, Lord Jehovah! behold, I cannot speak; for I am a child. But Jehovah said unto me, Say not, I am a child; for thou shalt go to whomsoever I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak. Be not afraid of them; for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith Jehovah. And Jehovah put forth his hand and touched my mouth; and Jehovah said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to pluck up, and to break down, and to destroy, and to overthrow, to build and to plant.
The same type of experience in a different speech is characterized the same way when one man goes to another and speaks. They, as a physical creature approach a specific individual and then ..speak. God also approaches as God and not a creature and Speaks to individuals pre-Incarnation.
That Word of Jehovah IS Jesus Christ who was manifested in flesh as the Word of God.
The pretense that Jesus Christ was never a pre-incarnate anything, but was just a man that lived about thirty three years on this earth and is not Eternal, everlasting God as part of the Trinity is a favored ploy of Satan. After His going into heaven Christ spoke through Paul again on homosexuality. You are the victim of a lie called ‘higher criticism’ that seeks to maintain the writers of the new testament were not actually and non-metaphorically born again and were not spoken through by the Spirit of Christ/Creating Speech, but simply made up what they thought was true as they saw things for better or worse and very particularly within an idealized non-creating speech that supposedly, at the least, ‘allows for the possibility of’ free will and decisional regeneration to actually exist. I.E. somebody hated Christ, pretended to love him to make money, organized their lies into a ’system’, and now you are using their arguments to supposedly prove you are righteous AND homosexual, bi-sexual, etc. They spread a net for souls and caught you and through you are perpetuating AIDS and HIV on others as well as immorality. I.E. You are being used as a force multiplier in an asymmetrical warfare against your own families and nation and being handed lies as supposed iron-clad arguments that justify how you feel in any given instant.
And that is a best case scenario and doesn’t include those among you who simply try to twist what they think Christ “meant” as what “Christian’s have to believe” into a weapon against Christians as a standard part of asymmetrical warfare as occult/psy ops.
May God bless you in actual new birth in Jesus Christ and in His spirit of grace. There is no trap out of which God cannot deliver you. At present you a victim of a scam for money perpetuated by very many pop preachers and wannabes, people who have worked very hard to supposedly prove they aren’t going to the lake of fire. You have been taken in by their deceptions and the fact they have yet to be punished for their lies. Your thinking is basically “If they can get away with lying about God, I can certainly get away with whatever private lusts I have in any given instant.” Both of you are wrong.
God already knows you very well:
Ecc 8:11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the children of men is fully set in them to do evil.
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Romans 14:9 For to this end Christ has died and lived again , that he might rule over both dead and living.
It is a lie to say there is no judgment because Christ was on this earth the first time not to judge. That’s like saying there is no such thing as the lake of fire simply because a trial must proceed the carrying out of the sentence and the precedings and trappings of the trial bear no resemblance to the lake of fire..
Call on Jesus Christ in your private prayers. That lying spirit in your flesh is not you or your friend like you suppose and will have an aversion to the Name of Jesus Christ. May God Speak through you those very prayers and thus make them genuine. That lying spirit in your flesh has basically refuted what Christ/Word Said the Father Said about Christ in his apostles and all new creatures in Jesus Christ: as the Son of God He lives forever and is Eternal, which includes pre-Incarnation and after His being on this earth and the whole time as Word of God. There is no parsing out of what God Said into pre-Christian and after-the Resurrection as irrelevant eras of His Word Spoken excepting what He specifically Said. And as to the Law He Himself Spoke to Moses, He Said:
Mat 5:17,18 Think not that I am come to make void the law or the prophets; I am not come to make void, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, one iota or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all come to pass.
God showing Peter who Christ really Is:
Mat 16:13-17 But when Jesus was come into the parts of Caesarea-Philippi, he demanded of his disciples, saying, Who do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some, John the baptist; and others, Elias; and others again, Jeremias or one of the prophets. He says to them, But *ye*, who do ye say that I am? And Simon Peter answering said, *Thou* art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answering said to him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona, for flesh and blood has not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in the heavens.
Christ also said of His followers that they would NOT speak from themselves, something that lying spirit in your flesh has charged the apostles with as just making up new rules Christ supposedly ‘never said’..
John 16:13 But when *he* is come, the Spirit of truth, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself I.E. He would only Say what the Son told Him to Say because Christ is THE non-metaphorical King as His part of the Trinity for the present until He gives up the kingdom to the Father and the whole Trinity as God
Col 2:8-10 See that there be no one who shall lead *you* away as a prey through philosophy and vain deceit, according to the teaching of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ. For in him dwells ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily; and ye are complete in him, who is the head of ALL principality and authority,
1Corithians 15:24-28 Then the end, when he gives up the kingdom to him who is God and Father; when he shall have annulled all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign until he put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that is annulled is death. For he has put all things in subjection under his feet. But when he says that all things are put in subjection, it is evident that it is except him who put all things in subjection to him. But when all things shall have been brought into subjection to him, then the Son also himself shall be placed in subjection to him who put all things in subjection to him, that God may be all in all.)
Mat 10:20 For *ye* are not the speakers, but the Spirit of your Father which speaks in you.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen